tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599668781403417287.post1607168071470735118..comments2023-11-29T05:19:55.648-08:00Comments on The Orange House Blog: Mad dogs and EnglishmenSam Rich Mayfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14676375256672832822noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599668781403417287.post-89521145785636450832009-02-02T11:08:00.000-08:002009-02-02T11:08:00.000-08:00It's up to the first ascentionist to give a route ...It's up to the first ascentionist to give a route a grade isn't it? And often new routes are down graded rather than upgraded. I think it's a bit unfair to criticise someone who has put a huge amount of effort into developing new routes in the area!Tom Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152953292762835449noreply@blogger.com